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Jane C.
Ian
- just for noting we have done a shop simplification as suggested at last (or last from last) stand up. Roule is checking it at the moment.
Jane C.
They should preferably have a profile which includes their personal details/ school centre organisation affiliation if any AND NB their identification as a particular programme roleplayer
Thabisile
will specify the categories for both implementation and training. It would be important to know how long they have been in their roles (ie when they trained and over how many years they have used the programme) so that we can acknowledge and incentivise/ reward long service and make sure they get trouble free access to the correct resources.
Ian P.
Great, thanks for the feedback
Jane
. What do you think should be available to this person when they sign up on the new site?
Jane C.
(2) organisations, schools and centres associated with these individuals..
Jane C.
I am happy with most of what has been suggested. But I do think we need to make an exception for (i) individuals who have trained to use or train on one or more of our programmes ...;.all their access will change if they have done this and its something they have earned so this data is important and I don't think we should onboard them as if they are any old member of the public! :)
Robyn
This makes sense to me
Ian
- new site, new everything so inviting current people into the new process this way, makes for a good transition to the new; they get onboarded in the same way as everyone else. With our user friendly journeys people should find this process easy and follow the steps naturally.
Ian P.
Good question. My suggested approach: - Contacts will not pull through to WordPress, as users will need to create a password and set up 2FA when they create an account. - When we launch the site, we should send an email to all SalesForce contacts, requesting them to create an account. - If the person's account email address matches up with the email address on record on SalesForce, we will update the contact in SalesForce. If they don't match, it will create a new contact in SalesForce. - If users are active in a program, we would most likely add them manually once the site is live. Similarly, historical data of activities may be visible in SalesForce, but I don't think we should import all of that into WordPress when we launch. Keen to hear your thoughts on this
Rowen
Robyn
Jane
Jacqui
Rowen R.
Thanks
Thabisile
. I've just chatted to
Annakie
, her team are finalising the data-cleanup and will be finished with uploading contacts and accounts to Salesforce by the end of this week (please note, this is just the contacts and accounts and not the legacy of past courses and materials). The fields and structure of Launching Salesforce will also be finalised by week's end.
Annakie
raised a very good question that I think
Ian
will answer - with the integration between Wordpress and Salesforce, if we're adding all the existing contacts and accounts, will that pull through to Wordpress? How are we creating existing Wordpress user dashboards for our already existing users? And just to ensure that there's no duplications when they pull through to Salesforce where they will already be uploaded.
Thabisile S.
Hi
Rowen
, I'm happy to sign off on the doc- I've just asked Colleen H to have a final look at the Funder/Supporter data requirements.
Thabisile
can you confirm that you're happy with the shared doc's categories / data lists to sign off on that, and
Annakie
could you let us know where we are with Entry level customisations (ie Launching Salesforce), data cleaning, etc and sign off that task?
Robyn
Hello
Rowen
sure, we can add this to tomorrow's conversation. is there anything else you want to note for this meeting?
Rowen R.
Robyn
I can confirm Annakie doesn't need to be at the sanity check, but will be at tomorrow's meeting. Can we please include the question of "what if new courses or resources are added, will they pull through to SF?" because we need to keep this in consideration for SF automation costings
Robyn
Annakie
I just realised that its possible that we may not need you in the Sanity check meeting, just the 22nd ,
Rowen
please confirm, apologies for the confusion!
Robyn
Lets try for that time - if that works for you
Rowen
?
Annakie G.
Robyn
I can make 10:15 on Tue 26 Nov, if that works for the rest?
Robyn
Thanks,
Jane
Rowen
&
Annakie
can you make 10 am on Tuesday, 26 November, for 1 hour?
Jane C.
Rowen
just chatted to
Robyn
on different things and she confirms she'll invite Annakie to the meeting now focussed on automations on the 22nd and set up another meeting for the Sanity Check re workflows/ tech solutions. Thanks Robyn.
Rowen R.
Thanks
Ian
:)
A question to be answered during the "sanity check" - if a new LMS course or resource is added to website post launch, what would be required to ensure it maps to Salesforce? I know it's a question raised in conversation before, but would love to add it to our "sanity check" meeting
Robyn
Ian P.
Just jumping in to answer the question on WordPress to SalesForce. We'll use salesforce api calls to push data to SalesForce. When a form is submitted or the user takes a relevant action, we'll hook into that action and post the data.
Typically one action will result in multiple api calls to SalesForce to create, update, read or delete information.
Where we need to pull information from salesforce to display it to a website user, we will again use api calls to fetch the information in real time.
Rowen R.
On a slightly different note:
Jane
has asked if we could include Annakie please,
Robyn
, in our check-in on Nov 22?
It would mean the focus of that meeting will shift to looking at costings for automations on SF, and finalising that piece of the puzzle. And we would then need to schedule an additional hour for the week afterwards for our "sanity check" of workflows and tech solutions.
The sanity check I think needs to look carefully at the high level solutions being proposed, so that we get a clear understanding of how all the platforms are being stitched together.
Rowen R.
Hi
Robyn
and
Thabisile
- Form Assembly was mentioned several times at the start of the process (it was part of the demo I did on Salesforce) and we listed pricing for it early on. However, I think Matogen decided against it because it's not a match for this programme - it doesn't integrate with Wordpress (can't do user creation, connect with Woocommerce or the LMS). It's a powerful tool when needing JUST lead generation forms.
But it would be good to get greater clarity on how Wordpress will be speaking to Salesforce, please?
Thabisile
- our tools document has a number of tools indicated and form assembly is not one of them. When you say data collection, do you mean forms on the site? If so, I believe we are using Gravity forms
Thabisile S.
Hi
Robyn
and
Ian
, as @Jane mentioned, we've been working on the Salesforce data requirements for Salesforce, and been in consultation with
Annakie
to take her through the what we have so far. As far as I'm aware, no decisions have been made yet regarding a data collection (i.e. Form Assembly or other) and this probably needs to happen quite soon as this will have implications for the Website-SF integration/development?
Thabisile
Paulene and I had a good meeting working systematically through the piplelines to identify data that we would be wanting to collect at each point for analysis, reporting, communications and for dashboards. We are not yet done but have made progress in a spreadsheet detailing types of data moments against types of data to collect. Thabisile will be consulting
Annakie
and
Rowen
to see if we are on the right track and we meet again on Wed.
Ian
Robyn
fyi
Rowen R.
Jane
, just following our conversation today:
Meeting with Thabisile, Ian, Annakie, Jane, Paulene, myself, Robyn (potentially) to discuss
where automations will sit
finalise what data must pull across to SF
how to structure our SF instance to map to WP, e.g
profile hierarchies / contact types,
pipeline stages to track in SF,
SF programmes + services and how these map to WP LMS + WP Resources + WP events,
if RSVP/attendance sits in programme or campaigns) and integration/automation considerations for PMM cohort management
Annakie
's team to finalise Salesforce instance (it is ready, just waiting for above insights)
Annakie
's team to clean data submitted during baseline and migrate into SF
Annakie
's team and
Thabisile
to coordinate on setting up reports and dashboard
SF finalised with handover training (for all people with licences)
Annakie
please let me know if there's something above needing changing?
Jane C.
Rowen
Thabisile
can we please get an update on Salesforce progress against milestones as you see them and clarity on where blocks are so we can all work together to resolve. Will also speak to you in our check in tomorrow Rowen.
Thabisile S.
Hi
Jane
and
Rowen
. We started this conversation at the Unit Leads meeting, but there just wasn't enough time to finalise the list. We will continue and have it finalised next week Tuesday. Paulene just needs some time to think though the programmes workflows & Wordpress/Salesforce administration needs. Thank you so much for joining the meeting today,
Rowen
, it was really useful to have you there!
Robyn
- could you please remove Jacqui from this task allocation and replace with Thabisile and Rowen?
Jane C.
There is something I would like clarity on however
Rowen
... it relates to this task Salesforce team brief WordWorks so that they are able to prepare all content and workflow require... Due: Oct 25 • Assigned to: Jacqui B. and Jane C. Is there any further briefing required to be done Connect Solutions (and if so what briefing is outstanding and what is the plan for it) or is this task done?
Thabisile
fyi
Jane C.
I don't think so and Monday is well and truly done for. As is the rest of the week for me! I do know that
Rowen
and
Thabisile
have been in touch and that Rowen is attending a Unit leads meeting at WW tomorrow to share about SF developments. So, I'm happy.
Robyn
Rowen
👆Morning, I am not sure if you saw this message from Jane
Jane C.
Hi Rowen, have you and Thabisile been able to connect? I agree we should meet up to check in - how is your Monday?
Jane C.
HI
Rowen
- here's the clarity that we needed .... Thabisile is planning a time to meet with the WW units to check if there is other data they want pulled from Wordpress to SF. we have until end November to stabilise ...
Rowen R.
Jane
the next Stand-up scheduled is Oct 18. Would you like to meet before then? I have been wanting a check on the Saleforce, but haven't had any bites on a meeting request :) Think we do need to meet up sooner rather than later.
Jane C.
That's a great idea. Please let me know if you want anything from me?
Thabisile S.
Hi
Jane
, as the website meeting for this week isn't happening, perhaps we can use the Unit Leads meeting on Tuesday morning next week to finalise the "shopping list".
Jacqui
, Bonga, and Paulene are in this meeting, but we could add Colleen H or anyone else needed?
Jane C.
Clarity
Thabisile
Rowen
- Matogen will need a stable list of data required to link up to SF by end November. Of course, this also means SF needs to be ready for those links. Thabs, my concern is that we need to have checked with other units (and I'm thinking especially of programmes, sales, communications and fundraising that their data interests are represented on the shopping list. Can you please consider what process you'd like to follow from MEL to extract this from those units? And please let me know if there is anything you need from me, process-wise.
Jane C.
Thanks
Rowen
... keen to clarify flexibility and timeframes for final list with
Ian
maybe at stand up tomorrow.
Rowen R.
Hi
Jane
, just copying my Whatsapp group response here for
Ian
and Matogen team:
This document is actually more for the
Ian
/ Matogen team than for the Salesforce development team. This is a list that they’ll need to ensure can be coded from the site across to the Salesforce.
On Salesforce’s side, the Launching Salesforce is very basic and is only for minor customisations (which accommodate most of what’s already in this list), and there’s easy flexibility to add and change later on.
I think there is much less flexibility from the Matogen/Wordpress side, depending on how Ian and team are planning to allow Wordpress to speak to Salesforce.
Ian
can you confirm or not confirm this :)
Rowen R.
Thanks
Jane
:
The Baseline Questionnaire has been submitted by
Thabisile
Thabisile
and
Annakie
are coordinating to submit the application for Wordworks (the SF site was presenting problems last week, but seems to be up and running today as we submitted an application for another client this morning and went straight through)
Annakie
and her team will need to come back to
Thabisile
with some questions about the application and for additional information
Annakie
and myself met with
Ian
and
Robyn
for a quick intro (it was just over 30min chat). In that chat we raised the questions about what data Ian and his team will need to pull across to Salesforce.
Annakie
and our team are available for any additional meetings with Matogen as needed.
Jane C.
3. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11xV6Tx16rj6QhlRdml7h-gYZo0hyO1jTstrguWfIeMU/edit?usp=sharing The link above is to a 'data shopping list' Rowen put together and I have commented into. I am concerned about how much flexibility there is going to be to add to this list as the website gets developed, teams engage with it, and new opportunities for data come into focus or whether we need to have a cross unit discussion on this to ensure a complete list. Please advise
Rowen
Jane C.
2. Can we keep track here of the Salesforce application?
Jane C.
Thanks so much for this chat! I have a few loose ends on my list I would like to clarify here.