Robyn

👆

David

 

the last robot there was a cop car 😱 🚨

Rather dont! haha, not safe – naughty! 

😅

All good. Few I was trying to type while driving but I cant multitask 

Sweet, I did send her an email mentioning that they should check it out on their side. Thanks

David

 

I guess its an issue on his side if he owns the domain and its only his email

Yah!

okay I was about to download a VPN to check

Ah so its only his email

David

👆

Looks that way, cuz my email is going to JM and she is also @valleyspring.com.au

is this only happening to him?

I am back 

Thanks

Robyn

 will let them know

Hey Lau, we don't handle the hosting of his email addie - you can flag it with him (I have had this issue a few times) but its not on our side x

Hey

David

 I just sent an email to Rudolph, but looks like something weird is happening with the domain, is that something we have control over? 

It's most likely because the domain is brand new and Mcafee has never encountered it before

I see the website shows as secure. I have never encountered this before 

Was just working on it. I've logged a ticket with Mcafee

Ian

and

David

 please check this request we got from Rudolph.  It feels like " this link is not safe" based on the persons individual settings but please confirm if there's anything we can do 

I changed the GDPR block back to white. I was experimenting to see if it would look better 

valleyspring -👆🏻 not sure why those buttons are there so want to check that - feels internal vs what we should be asking but again, could be a later version or something so lets chat this morning 

GEMS 👆🏻

Thanks for all the effort

David

  &

Ian

 - Re Iubenda, lets chat this morning because I am not sure I am following - we need all the GDPR compliance goodies and i have not logged in to check what those links are about so will need to log in or have you explain whats in those links as I believe they are relevant - the notice should look like GEMS so it feels like something is different which may or may not be right - lets check 

We now have two LinkedIn post and the reposts are not enabled. The timing of when the posts show will be out of our control. 

or if this is not part of the update

Good morning, I have added the GDPR to the website.

Ian

 helped last night with the migration tool and unblocked me. I just want to make sure I should be adding the links to the site as well. 

If anyone is online can they see the site ? https://valleyspring.com.au/ It wont load for me

I think the domain is slow but I will keep trying

hmmm, no idea why it would be so slow, I don't think we're handling the hosting so might be something like that 

The site is so slow. I think that is what is causing the issue

Ok! We can tackle the buggies that popped up in the morning and get the site looking shaps!

Thanks

David

 - maybe it just needs a bit of time to get up onto the www

but ill see if this works

the page is a bit broken 

It just started working

Oh, dear... I'm not sure if I can be of any help Dave, sorry! But maybe it needs time? Lol, wouldn't have a clue if that'll help... but possibly something you and Ian can tackle first thing tomorrow

I cant get hold of Ian. The line is currently busy

Thanks Robyn, The plugin page doesnt want to open

I need to dash to go feed my pups but please holler if I can help in anyway   - 060 478 9498 

eish man! Killing Dave softly one minute at a time! 

It takes about a minute just to load a page. 😭

all good! Don't stress - we are all doing our best!

Yes sorry Robyn. I didnt expect this

sorry

David

 ! I let the client know we are on it - I think next time we should aim for morning go live's instead. Its safer than way! 

No problem. Its taking so long to get to the next page. 

Thanks for the update

David

 

I am trying to get to the plugin page to install WP-migrate

Still working on the site. it is very slow

Okay great thanks Ian

Away from computer for a bit - call me on 0741967229 if you need me

David

 

Great news! 

Oh wait it is there great false alarm

I cant believe it failed on the 100% 

Thanks Dave! 

its on 21% now and the hopefully the next part doesnt take too long

This part I restarted a few minutes ago so not too long

thanks

David

 ! Hopefully it picks up speed soon - when did you start? 

Yes its taking a while to upload then I will install WP migrate and connect stage with live

I don't know when you started and how long these things take so will leave it in your capable hands - guessing the file upload is taking long for some reason (thinking about the chat we had in Ian's lounge with the book shelf haha) 

Yes Ian offered some support now but currently uploading the files at 1%

No probs, lean on

Ian

 if you need a quick how to / reminder - thanks Dave! 

I am currently trying to take it up at the moment. I haven't done it in a very long time. So its take me some time to work it out but I am working on it at the moment

David

 what time are we rolling out Valleyspring? I told the client this afternoon (didnt give a time) so please let me know what to expect 

no probs, thanks Dave, I told the client its out of our control and I am sure it won't just be this plugin that faces this issue 

There are a few people complaining about the wait time https://community.elfsight.com/t/reduce-cache-time-in-linked-post/19975

Reduce cache time in Linked Post

while crwaling linkedin post - it took around 48 hours to post through elfsight widget. Kindly try to reduct that time. you can c…

This delay is consistent across various platforms supported by Elfsight, indicating that it's a standard practice for managing social media feeds within their widgets. It's important to note that this delay applies regardless of the number of views your widget has received, as the update frequency is determined by the source platform (in this case, LinkedIn) and not by the usage statistics of the widget itself.

It looks like it would be the same for all paid options as well: 

David

 how long do you wait for posts to go up if its a paid version? If it cuts the timing, what is the cost of a paid plugin?

Got it, thank you! 

Thanks

David

  I think its best not to show the reshare so that's cool  - we can let Rudolph and Jean-Marie know that we cannot get the posts updated - we need to wait for LinkedIn and that might only happen in the next 48 hours - is that correct?

I selected not to show reposts perhaps that will fix the issue with the duplicate let me know if I should undo this. 

LinkedIn updates its feeds every 48 hours. This means that if you're using the free plan and your view count is below 200, you should expect a delay of up to 48 hours for new posts to appear in your Elfsight LinkedIn feed widget.

Researching at the moment. I will let you know what I find. Just to take note it caches at 200 views and updates a month later. We are not 200 yet

Yes - sent you a ping lovely Lau, lets help them along and do it between you and then so its not embarrassing for them x

Haha! just sent you a ping on this... he shared the post as Valleyspring.. looks weird now...

Sorry, it might be a repost but please check and ignore if its just that! x

Laura

looks like you and Rudolph have loaded posts for LinkedIn - please take a look and delete any dupes? 🤔

David

 Please confirm when we can expect to see the new LinkedIn posts live on the site ? Thank you! 

Morning all, I added this section for the LinkedIn posts: https://valleyspring.storiesandscience.co.za/about/. I currently have Mircosoft LinkedIn posts to show what it will look like with more posts.

Laura

 Is this were you wanted it to be shown? 

Should be gone now :)

I can change that quick

Home is peeping out there 

Laura

David

Ian

 I spotted a new weirdo - please check

Sure let me see what I can do with that image 🤘

Laura

will you respond to Rudolph about the image he shared for Leonie - 😅

For sure! Was so quick and easy working in elementor, really is plug and play vibes

great job!

Laura

 under budget for a cost sensitive client - even if they add the LinkedIn feed, and we need to do a couple of reverts, we'll be way under - yay! 

Wow! We klapped it!

🔥 yaaas 👆🏻

I saved and closed the page 😎

ok with you 🙌 totally minor 

but not an issue for the user and not a big issue either way

Only small slight down side when handling the form is that the name changes if you remove the lable but once you open it you can see what it  is 

Yea! looks great

David

🥳

Robyn

 

Is this okay?

Laura

 

Thanks

David

 

Okay let me see if we can do a work around of something custom

Ahh! thanks

David

I didn't see that!, yes, that would be ideal, cuz now it says Your name, Your name, repeated... which is a bit weird

I assume you only want a label for service type

If I enable them then all the labels show. 

Hey

Laura

  &

Robyn

 . I see the labels are disabled 

The anchor links are sorted! Thanks,

David

– it will require a little CSS or some code to have the anchor links appear in the viewport, as right now they link is directly at the top of the page, under the navigation.

No problem but you are doing it correctly. it just the page

Huh! Let me see how I can fix the URL... Thanks

David

🤘

but the page would need to be named https://valleyspring.storiesandscience.co.za/services/

what you did was correct

The service page is https://valleyspring.storiesandscience.co.za/?page_id=41

Hey

Laura

 , It looks like there URL is not correct

Thanks,

Laura

!  I will look at testing next week 

Ian

, I've given it a try, but it's not working, can you see anything I'm doing wrong here:

Thanks Ian let me give it a try and see how it goes

For anchor links, you need to add IDs to the content sections where you want to link to on the page. Then your link will be, e.g. valleyspring.storiesandscience.co.za/services#service-1

everything else should be in place, but needs a good testing to make sure I haven't missed anything

Ian

Robyn

I'm done with the site 🥳 there is only one thing that needs doing and I need a bit of help with it. In the footer we have links to the individual services. The services are all listed on one page, I would like to create anchor links for these, but not too sure how to go about that in Elementor

Yay!! glad its sorted!

Thanks, Lau! 

no chopped off vibes so think we are good! 😊 

much better! 

Robyn

 can you recheck it, please? same qr code

The experience will be slightly different because it's a URL as opposed to a contact link, but I've removed the logo, so you should only get his profile pic once it's uploaded. Will let you know when to test

If it looks like this we are good - that is how it looked before when they flagged the "home" number 

Lemme get that fixed

The logo?

Robyn

 Hmm I don't even get the logo I get the pic of Rudolph

its chopped off 

Nope

did a quick test and its not looking so lekker for me - just me with this issue? The other way might have said home but it was not chopped off so I dont think its going to pass the test

Ian

&

Laura

 

Everything look ok?

thanks, Lau - will share now 

Robyn

 I see I'm not actually in the latest thread where you've asked them to pause on printing so would you mind sharing this latest Print ready PDF with them:

Yippee! just adding it to the business card and will share via email :)

I think this is great

Ian

Robyn

the new vcard is set up and here is the QR code. The experience is slightly different now. because it is a URL, it opens a url then opens the contact, so a little bit of a delay, as opposed to a vCard. I think this is fine though

Ok cool. Yes

Robyn

 We will need to redo that QR code on the cards, so they should not print until I get that sorted. Thanks!

Yes, 27th x

awesome, so we'll need to update the QR code right? I want to let them know we are doing this so they don't go to print 

Great

Laura

. Yes, once you've added the fields, click on Generate at the bottom - this will download the vcard file to your computer. That's the file we will need to upload on the site. The url will then be valleyspring.com/rudolph.vcf, for example. And then we use a plain QR code generator to link to that url

Oh this has a lot more function than the one I found

Robyn

 - looks like we'd be able to specify cell vs home numbers, and a lot more. I would just need to figure out how to tie it into the VS site. They will be in SA next week right?

Re the vcard - we can create our own vcard and host it on the valleyspring site. https://vcardmaker.com/

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you got a lot done already, looks great! 

Oh! hmm, that's defos a pop up, need to figure out how to switch that off haha!

something automatic I am guessing 

It popped up on the home page when I was checking it 

Thanks!! 🤩 Where do you see the Newsletter

Robyn

?

looking great! Reminder that they parked the newsletter 

Dylan

sorted it out for me! 🙌

AH, You figured out the theme! yay!

Oh yeah! 

Got everything I need

Ian

Already got the homepage on Desktop sorted :) https://valleyspring.storiesandscience.co.za/

website, specifically

Laura

 - what do you need on Valleyspring? 

Did it here: https://qrcode.tec-it.com/en/VCard

This one also requires an account, will look for something else

Thanks!

Ahh lekker, thanks! looks straight forward – will get that sorted

Laura

 we should be able to figure out how to do it; I don't think we need to get an account

So one needs an account with QR-code tiger to create a vCard, there is a free trial, but will expire at which point the QR code will become invalid.

Robyn

 should I ask Jean-Marie to set up an account?

Oh thats cool! Thanks Ian

no probs, I will ask them now 

Laura

Robyn

just seeing your response to Jean-Marie now. I think what they have in mind for the QR code is something more like this: https://www.qrcode-tiger.com/how-to-use-vcard-qr-codes-on-business-cards

You scan the QR code and the contact info is immediately stored on your phone

Oh, I understand. Now it has been done :) 

You can remove Understrap and replace it with the Elementor Hello theme

This is what I see in the repo

Follow the link on that task :) 

Dylan

 - did you add the theme or the plugin? You need to add the theme as well

Ian

 this actually was done. I didn't mark it off as there is still the HTTPS issue. 

thanks

Ian

 I will jump on this right now

Dylan

can you possibly get this task done this morning: Add Elementor theme and push to staging - Valleyspring PTY Ltd

perfect x

Sure

Robyn

 Can we chat at 3pm? 

Laura

 do you want to do a quick valleyspring connect today?

I'm still seeing the KonsoleH login when using HTTPS. 

Dylan

 it looks like Valleyspring is now resolving on valleyspring.storiesandscience.co.za. Would you check if you can get into wp-admin and complete setup?

Got you, I have added thanks x

This is the request on the Xd, so assumed that meant to include the hero banner... so not sure if it should or should not be included.

i am happy either way but want to make is super clear 

So shall I add hero banner 30 minutes and say that's included - hero banner fits into content / images and `i was going to exclude this

Laura

 

That makes sense

Robyn

 But I'll also need to adjust the Hero banner for Twitter dimensions, which'll take around 30 min

Re the Twitter account set up. I think that's small but if they want us to add content to it, it will mushroom so is it okay if I go 1 hour max excluding content / images ?

Awesome thanks so much for confirming! 

Robyn

: ~R5 000. We could use a plugin, but social plugins are notoriously unreliable. I think we can build a tiny little CloudFlare worker to handle this. 

I know you mentioned a plugin the other day and guessing some dev so what do we think this will cost - Lau might also need to adjust the xd file to make this work 

They want to know what its going to cost so need your assistance with that 

its on the about page - not fleshed out yet as we have a manual option in there now 

Hi

Ian

&

David

I need to quote Valleyspring on the Linkedin feed automatically puling in - https://xd.adobe.com/view/8b9ef893-41cf-467a-bc84-b81b0ce45f5c-decd/screen/d072e4d7-c741-4628-a9cb-b361a47fdb51/

Thank you!

Slides should be fine -https://elementor.com/help/slides-widget-pro/

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Ian

 just checking if you had a chance to look at this one? Thanks so much 

notes for reference on potential scope changes Review information shared to make sure we have it all  - Valleyspring PTY Ltd

Hey

Ian

:) Rudolph shared loads of images for the Home page Hero banner and put those in a folder called "Rotation Photos at the Top" which I'm assuming means he'd like a slider. are sliders something I can easily implement with Elementor? Or does that depend on the theme they selected, so we'd need some kinda plug-in or something? In which case, Robs will mention that as additional. https://elementor.com/library/template-kit/local-services-wireframe-kit-1/preview/

Local Services Wireframe Kit 1 - Library

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no worries

Ian

 you didn't block us at all - we are meeting because there's so many changes requested that Lau wants to make sure she got them all - so we are all on the same page - just doing the email after the meeting - thanks so much! 

And just to add – if you do it differently or you feel it's sometimes necessary to block the process, then go for it

Sorry julle, I don't mean to block the workflow here. I'm trying to think about it from the client's perspective, and trying to figure out how we can keep tight control over scope. My approach would be this: 
- On email, fire off a quick message to sense check the change in scope, and include a rough estimate
- Keep the conversation going on the XD file by making requested changes
- Once confirmed, send the client an updated quote

This way, I think the client will still feel we're keeping the process going and accommodating their changes as they come up.

i am happy to be the one making the comment too so it still comes from me 

Agreed,

Ian

 but its easier to reply on the xd file so Lau and i are meeting to make sure its all covered and will respond on the xd file after which I will follow up with an email - happy?

Laura

Robyn

 I think for consistency any discussions about scope and / or budget should come from Robyn only. That way we know the messaging is consistent and clients understand who to talk to when they want to make changes

i think the what's new part is cool, but its best to respond to the question managing expectations before we go ahead and make the changes

I will then follow up with a comment with what you said, re scope

Robyn

I've already revised that section on the prototype, but not with an integrated section, but the manual approach, which is a simple content chnage on the design, like this

we can say yes it is possible, would you like an estimate for the additional cost or something like that?

Hey

Laura

I think we should answer the question JM asked vs updating this on the protype- lets see what she says first and then update?  " we would like to use this section for "What's New" - could this be integrated with our latest post on LinkedIn? " 

total bone head so glad you didnt waste time on this haha

Ahh sorry I missed this, but glad you came right 😊

lol, I figured out my mistake - got it! 

did you resolve the comments or do I need to do something special 

Hey

Laura

is this the correct prototype? https://xd.adobe.com/view/8b9ef893-41cf-467a-bc84-b81b0ce45f5c-decd/screen/5d0bc88f-db8a-43f4-b266-d5e730019752/

Thanks

David

 I will be implementing this, so needs to be easy enough for me haha! Gonna keep it simple on the prototype for now (i.e. manual efforts for them)

Robyn

looks like there was only one email you were not included in, which I just forwarded 😎

❤️

Agreed. This comment wasn't on email, but on the prototype. But going to share all the emails now too :)

Laura

 my view on this is, it needs to be mentioned as out of scope if its not currently included - adding a social icon is different to adding a feed which even if its quick, is something we can add to the mention list - its also possible she is describing it incorrectly - please share that mail she shared with you in the meantime - thanks so much x

Saw this, but haven't read through the article yet. But, it looks nice: https://onstipe.com/blog/how-to-embed-linkedin-feed-on-website/

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Hey

Ian

David

have you guys done an embedded LinkedIn feed on sites before? JM requested it on the About page. it's not been scoped (

Robyn

 ) but thought to ask, if it is something I could do easily – otherwise, I'll give the feedback that it would need to be a manual effort, which would also be easy to structure on the page, but requires coming back to update as needed.

Julle skop gat. :)

awesome, thanks so much Lau! 

JM also mentioned the pictures in general – so she should indicate on the Xd which images should stay and what should go, and what to replace those that don't work

Oh! and:
3. A customer quote for the contact page

Hey

Robyn

There is quite a bit supplied! yippee, but still some outstanding content, specifically:

Lau, i was about to chase content for Valleyspring and noticed that they mentioned content in the prototype comments - please can confirm that the content is finalised - I had a quick look at the xd file and looks like its covered but please confirm - thank you! 

awesome! thanks so much x

Totally! Sounds reasonable. Thanks, Robs!

No worries, thanks Lau, going to give you 2 hours per day based on our quote which is more or less the same as your timing here which takes us to the 3rd week of May so will say to them we'll be ready to handover our work by then - we'd still need to do our internal testing and if you do more in a day we can potentially shave off some time but this would be a safe bet - happy? 

Ahh sorry

Robyn

, have been in the swamps on other things!

I think I could get this done in like 35 hrs.
But I'm also thumbsucking a little because I haven't timed an Elementor site build before. The majority of the elements are components that already exist in the kit. They would just require some styling tweaks in Elementor. There are two components I'd need to create: 

Does that make sense when compared to the timing on other projects with similar scope?

if we get sign off by the end of the week, we could possibly be done with this work by the first week of May to handover for testing? 

Laura

 any chance you have some timing for me - I told these guys I would be in touch today 

Done! Gonna share with VS crew!

I'll add a few logos with different backgrounds for clarity. Gonna keep the off-white BG. I think it helps the layout :)

Ok, that makes sense. I just wanted to check that we wouldn't have to place the logos onto a blue background, and then try to find workarounds for different logos

Another option would be to have the background of the partners section be the off-white:

Great! They are certainly smaller, so the quality should be less of a concern. The logos I placed in there are all one image.. so have the same background. We could def upload logos with various colour backgrounds, including white, however if it is on a white background we won't necessarily see the border, so for example, it could look like this: 

I think that could work. Will the logos replace the blue sections completely, or do you think the logos should be on this blue background? If the latter, we might have to put logos on a white background first if their colours don't show up on the blue.

Ian

please check here: https://xd.adobe.com/view/8b9ef893-41cf-467a-bc84-b81b0ce45f5c-decd/screen/e258147b-2b3b-4ae9-b697-ff54b6f8e508/ If thats good. I'll share with JM and Rudolph :)

Valleyspring prototype

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On it!

Laura

 I'm happy with the changes on the design. Added one comment about partner logos

Hi Ian, that's great to hear - I have asked this question before specifically with Valleyspring so we probably missed each other - poor Rosie had to go set up a gmail to access Indlulamithi too 

Robyn

 there's a workaround, which is to create a folder outside of a shared drive. 

I was able to give them both "View" access: 

No probs Lauskie - its a usual issue for me - especially when working with the Unfold ladies 

Ahh,

Robyn

I now recall you mentioning they don't have Gmail and hence why they can't get in. 🫣 Sorry, I forgot! 

Ian

 I am on my Mato Digi account. Ok! I can transfer to them in another way. Will close the loop there and shout if I have troubles

its not practical for anyone to not be able to use their own mail 

I have been complaining about this issue - I had to wetransfer all their files to them because Rudolph has to access via his gmail and I think they forgot that 

Laura

 you cannot invite non gmail people to the drive 

Laura

 are you in? I think you might have been signed in on your personal account

If I hover over it says "Only managers can change member permissions"

Can you see if you and Robyn got a message or email?

how does one change access

David

 Would you be able to change my access to the folder?

Also super weird that David is the only content manager on the Valleyspring drive

Robyn

 do you have permission on VS drive to add JM and Rudi? 

Thanks, Lau! x

Ian

Robyn

 we have access to the Valleyspring LinkedIn page and I've given you both super admin access ✅

I've sent Rudolph a message 👍

thanks so much

David

it looks great -

Ian

 over to you to respond to Rudolph - please ask him if he has a generic email to use instead of the one we have there - thanks so much 

Okay awesome I will share the link when its up

Yes I think so - we don't have a site yet so it will be the only page - Rudolph can let us know if he is happy when you email him? 

I think yes.

Robyn

 ?

Should I add the landing page to the website?

This is looking great,

David

 ! 

i can ask if he has something more generic for us to use 

Lets go with this Rudolph@valleyspring.com.au

https://www.linkedin.com/company/valleyspringconsulting/about/

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Do we have an email I can  use?

Laura

 just linkedin which is your first jobbie x

David

I don't believe they have any social channels at the moment, but please correct me if I'm wrong

Robyn

 
Can we change that to: "In the meantime, you can get in contact with us via email..."

Hey, Do we have any social media links or email I can add to the landing page?